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Let’s make this simple: You want to know if there are any mid- or post-credits scenes in <\/strong>Avatar: Fire and Ash<\/strong><\/u>. The answer is no; James Cameron has never included a closing credits scene in any of his movies, and that doesn\u2019t change here.<\/strong><\/p>\nFull spoilers follow!<\/strong><\/p>\nThe third chapter in James Cameron\u2019s Avatar saga, Avatar: Fire and Ash, picks up with the Sully family now fully immersed within the Metkayina, the clan that gave them safe shelter in Avatar: The Way of Water (2022). They\u2019re still mourning the loss of Neteyam \u2013 the eldest son of Jake Sully (Sam Worthington) and Neytiri (Zoe Salda\u00f1a) \u2013 who was killed in that second film.<\/p>\n\n\nMore: <\/strong>Avatar: Fire and Ash Review<\/strong><\/p>\n<\/aside>\n<\/section>\nThere are also looming concerns about the human boy known as Spider (Jack Champion) \u2013 the biological son of the Sullys\u2019 sworn enemy, Colonel Miles Quaritch (Stephen Lang). He\u2019s grown up alongside the Sullys and is treated like a family member by all of them\u2026 well, all except Neytiri, who always kept him at arm\u2019s length thanks to his humanity, and who has now grown even more openly hostile towards him in the wake of Neteyam\u2019s death. This is why her solution to the worry that Spider\u2019s presence could be a danger to them is to suggest they simply send him away. Reluctantly, Jake agrees, but the entire family sets out on the journey to take Spider to his new home, hitching a ride with the Wind Traders, whose floating vehicles travel Pandora. <\/p>\n
And nothing bad happens! Oh wait, no, that\u2019s when the Fire Nation atta\u2026 ahem<\/em>, that\u2019s when the Mangkwan, also known as the Ash Clan, attacks!<\/p>\n<\/p>\nRing of Fire (and Ash)<\/h2>\n Our big new threat here is the Mangkwan, under the leadership of Varang (Oona Chaplin). These are far more menacing, dangerously violent Na\u2019vi than we\u2019ve met befor. They feel that the Na\u2019vi\u2019s sacred deity, Eywa, has abandoned them, and it\u2019s not long before they\u2019ve joined forces with Quaritch. Varang and Quaritch even become lovers!<\/p>\n
The initial attack from the Mangkwan upon the Wind Traders nearly leads to Spider\u2019s death, as the Sullys are initially scattered and forced to flee, with Spider\u2019s oxygen supply running dangerously low with no replacement mask available. But Jake and Neytiri\u2019s adopted daughter, Kiri (Sigourney Weaver), who already showed she had some very special and unique abilities in The Way of Water, is able to call upon Eywa to save Spider before he dies. This causes something unprecedented to happen, as Spider, though still a human, can now breathe the Pandoran air without a mask. He even now has a neural queue \u2013 you know, those weird linky things in a Na\u2019vi\u2019s hair \u2013 as do most lifeforms on Pandora, allowing him to now connect with them. <\/p>\n
<\/p>\nThis becomes the film\u2019s pivotal plot point, because when Jake and Neytiri find out about Spider\u2019s new status, they realize the very dangerous implications. If the ominous human corporation known as RDA \u2013 and by extension humans at large \u2013 can somehow replicate Spider\u2019s new biology and overcome their inability to survive the environment, it would only lead to more of them coming to Pandora to exploit its resources, no doubt resulting in the killing of more Na\u2019vi in the process. <\/p>\n
Indeed, this is exactly<\/em> what RDA wants to do as the film continues, which leads to the movie\u2019s darkest moment, as Jake \u2013 realizing Spider\u2019s mere existence now endangers all of the Na\u2019vi \u2013 intends to kill the boy to stop the inevitable. But though Jake tries to push down his own feelings, ignoring Spider as he pleads for his life and even calls Jake \u201cDad\u201d \u2013 it\u2019s really sad!! \u2013 it\u2019s ultimately Spider Hater #1, aka Neytiri, who finally processes what an awful act this would be, and stops Jake from going through with it. <\/p>\nOf course, this doesn\u2019t solve their problem. Spider is indeed captured, with Quaritch helping to bring in his son, albeit with the caveat that he seems to not want Spider killed in order to access these changes to his DNA. Not surprisingly, other RDA representatives like Giovanni Ribisi\u2019s returning Parker Selfridge are far less concerned about how they get results. <\/p>\n
<\/p>\nMeanwhile, with all eyes on his best bro Spider, the Sullys\u2019 second-born, Lo’ak (Britain Dalton), is somewhat sidelined for much of the film. Despite serving as narrator of the entire movie for the first time, Lo\u2019ak goes on a side quest to rally the Tulkun \u2013 those big, highly intelligent Pandoran whales introduced in The Way of Water \u2013 to help in the impending fight against the RDA. This is something the Tulkun first say they want no part of\u2026<\/p>\n
Across Spider\u2019s Verse<\/h2>\n The final act of the film involves Spider breaking free with the help of\u2026 one half of Flight of the Conchords! Yes, after spending two movies being disgusted but basically ineffectual as he watched the Tulkun mercilessly and brutally killed by his fellow humans, Jemaine Clement\u2019s Dr. Ian Garvin has finally had enough, helps Spider escape\u2026 and then just kind of oddly peaces out of the movie. See you in Avatar 4, I guess? <\/p>\n
What follows is another major battle between the RDA and the Na\u2019vi that has many cool moments, but also feels a bit too similar to the awesome final showdown that ended The Way of Water. Rather than holding off for a last minute Han Solo-type moment, the Tulkuns\u2019 inevitable change of heart is quickly taken care of, and they actually show up almost immediately. As a result, things are going very well for Team Sully and their Metkayina comrades at first, with the giant creatures smashing into and onto many an enemy ship and sending them to their doom. Thankfully, we finally see the Avatar series\u2019 most loathsome character, the human Scoresby (Brendan Cowell) \u2013 the guy who not only doesn\u2019t care that the Tulkun are intelligent, caring creatures, but seems to love hunting them for profit even more <\/em>thanks to that knowledge \u2013 being snatched into the mouth of a Tulkun, who drags him down into the depths to his doom.<\/p>\nJake and Quaritch immediately stop fighting to save the boy they both consider a son.\u00a0Quaritch refuses to be taken in, and instead plummets to his doom\u2026<\/div>\n
But things begin to go bad for our heroes when Quaritch and his new pals, the Mangkwan, enter the battle. The Sully children\u2019s former bully-turned-pal, Rotxo (Duane Evans, Jr.), is killed, and after doing some serious damage to her enemies, the very pregnant Metkayina spiritual leader, Ronal (Kate Winslet), is fatally wounded as well. In her final moments, she goes into labor, with Neytiri helping to deliver her healthy baby, who Ronal is able to hold before she dies. <\/p>\n
In the midst of this, Kiri and Spider dive down to the Spirit Tree, with Kiri finally able to commune with Eywa again, which in turn allows her to call forth more help from\u2026 eh, sorry, blanking on these new creatures\u2019 name, but they\u2019re like dolphins with attitude! These guys are able to help push back hard against both the RDA and the Mangkwan. Amongst the RDA, the command ship belonging to General Frances Ardmore (Edie Falco) is torn open and flooding, ending its threat and likely ending the lives of those onboard as well. <\/p>\n
Though Neytiri and Varang do ferociously face off, it\u2019s not a duel to the death (this time), with Varang escaping when things begin to go bad for her side. Our central Avatar franchise rivalry, Quaritch and Jake, once more battle high up on shaky ground, with Spider trying to stop Quaritch as well. However, when the mayhem around them causes Spider to nearly fall to his death, both Jake and Quaritch immediately stop fighting to save the boy they both consider a son. With Spider saved, and Quaritch\u2019s side losing the fight, Quaritch refuses to be taken in, and instead plummets to his doom\u2026 unless, you know, he\u2019s actually okay. <\/p>\n
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In the aftermath, Spider and Kiri once more visit the Spirit Tree, using their neural queue to link up with it. This allows them to visit the Spirit World, where they are greeted by the friendly faces of those who have passed on, including familiar faces like Neteyam, Ronal, Rotxo, and even Dr. Grace Augustine, with Sigourney Weaver briefly getting to play a scene with herself as both mother (Grace) and daughter (Kiri). The spirits all gather around Kiri and Spider, letting Spider know he is truly considered one of them now. <\/p>\n
And so ends Fire and Ash! <\/p>\n
So Does This Feel Like a Finale?<\/h2>\n We know James Cameron has planned Avatar as a five-movie saga, and that he even shot a small amount of material for the fourth and fifth films while making The Way of Water and Fire and Ash, but he\u2019s also been a bit more cautious about the future while promoting the third film. Right now, he\u2019s stressing that whether the fourth and fifth films happen depends on how well this new one does<\/u>, and has also noted that the third movie is meant to feel like the end of a major chapter in the story. So does Fire and Ash feel like it could be a proper franchise finale if it was suddenly turned into one? <\/p>\n
Not really, for a few reasons. First off, let\u2019s go over the characters who are dead, presumably dead, or just kind of wandered off:<\/p>\n
Dead for Sure<\/strong><\/h3>\n\nRonal\n\nWe even see her in the Na\u2019vi spirit world! <\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n Rotxo\n\nDitto on that whole spirit world thing.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n